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  • What is your camber set at? Zero toe without at least -2.5 degrees of negative camber feels really wandery (even more so with low wheel offset.)
    With a straight alignment (no toe in or out) the wheel will not return like it does with toe in or out. This takes some getting used to.
    The best way to firm up the feel of the steering, while also improving the feel of the car is with a quicker steering rack ratio.
    Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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    • Originally posted by Festiver View Post
      Ok to start my toe is perfect my suspension is all tight and snug everything seems perfect besides driving
      So I'm having trouble
      she sometimes wonders on the road like will randomly shoot to the right or left a little
      she will turn hard left beautifully but turning right I need to turn way farther than it feels I should and it doesn't feel as tight
      The wheel doesn't come all the way back straight by itself
      Accelerating pulls to the right slightly but decelerating pulls to the left
      All these problems point to a bad alignment but my camber and toe are great and caster is unadjustable so how could it be off really need help here I'm out of ideas



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      Ok, camber and toe are great but what are they?
      Does it do this with the tires on your steel rims or just these?
      I have -1.3ish camber and 0 toe with achilles tires and for the 10km i drove on the highway it seemed to go nice and straight.
      Are your tie rod ends even lengths on each side?

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      • Originally posted by ryanprins13 View Post
        Ok, camber and toe are great but what are they?
        Does it do this with the tires on your steel rims or just these?
        I have -1.3ish camber and 0 toe with achilles tires and for the 10km i drove on the highway it seemed to go nice and straight.
        Are your tie rod ends even lengths on each side?

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        -2° camber 0 toe and the wheels I've had on for months no issues tie rods are factory spec festiva with aspire tie rod ends I centered my steering wheel by the indicators before adjusting my toe and I did bottom out the one tie rod but it was on perfect with my toe being 0 but still my toe is 0

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        Festiver
        93 L find/5 speed
        BP/g15mr swapped
        Aspire brake swapped
        Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
        stripped and sold due to rust

        89 festie
        rustful
        maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

        93 festie
        advanced suspension
        kai/skeeter camber
        b3t/g15mr

        I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

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        • Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
          What is your camber set at? Zero toe without at least -2.5 degrees of negative camber feels really wandery (even more so with low wheel offset.)
          With a straight alignment (no toe in or out) the wheel will not return like it does with toe in or out. This takes some getting used to.
          The best way to firm up the feel of the steering, while also improving the feel of the car is with a quicker steering rack ratio.
          That is diassapointing I think my camber is -2 iirc would you suggest more camber maybe a hair of toe out? And any idea of why it's weird turning right but perfect turning left?

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          Festiver
          93 L find/5 speed
          BP/g15mr swapped
          Aspire brake swapped
          Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
          stripped and sold due to rust

          89 festie
          rustful
          maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

          93 festie
          advanced suspension
          kai/skeeter camber
          b3t/g15mr

          I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

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          • With negative camber, you want some toe-in if any. Toe out with negative camber will destroy the inside edge of your tires quickly. Also, with your low offset wheels, you've changed your scrub radius, which affects feel.

            Then again, Charlie stated all this at the top of the page.
            Trees aren't kind to me...

            currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
            94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.

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            • Yeah, avoid toe out on these cars (on either end). I used to run toe out on my VW mk1 and Mk2 cars for autocross and tight road course driving, but the festiva doesn't need that for quick turn in. It's a drastically better chassis than the VW platforms.
              Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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              • As far as it being harder to turn one way than the other.... hmmm. Sounds like something may be bent or binding. Axle bind could most certainly do that.
                I would definitely run 3 degrees or more of negative camber with the wheels you have on the car. You'll notice a lot of benefits.
                Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                • Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                  As far as it being harder to turn one way than the other.... hmmm. Sounds like something may be bent or binding. Axle bind could most certainly do that.
                  I would definitely run 3 degrees or more of negative camber with the wheels you have on the car. You'll notice a lot of benefits.
                  Ok I'll play with my camber tomorrow see what I can do and I know my trans binds it has since the day I put it in but it hasn't effected the car anything like this before also how will axle bind effect how far I need to turn for a corner

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                  Festiver
                  93 L find/5 speed
                  BP/g15mr swapped
                  Aspire brake swapped
                  Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
                  stripped and sold due to rust

                  89 festie
                  rustful
                  maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

                  93 festie
                  advanced suspension
                  kai/skeeter camber
                  b3t/g15mr

                  I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

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                  • I don't know about how far you have to turn, just that it would be harder one way than the other with axle bind.

                    If your rack isn't centered it'll do weird stuff like that. The tie rods should be equal length.
                    Also, your rear alignment can affect things like turning radius. What is your rear set up like?
                    Last edited by Advancedynamix; 04-10-2017, 09:47 AM.
                    Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                    • Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                      I don't know about how far you have to turn, just that it would be harder one way than the other with axle bind.

                      If your rack isn't centered it'll do weird stuff like that. The tie rods should be equal length.
                      Also, your rear alignment can affect things like turning radius. What is your rear set up like?
                      Actually figured it out the shoulder on my strut bolts were too long fixed that and she corners hard right again I'll get my camber sorted soon

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                      Festiver
                      93 L find/5 speed
                      BP/g15mr swapped
                      Aspire brake swapped
                      Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
                      stripped and sold due to rust

                      89 festie
                      rustful
                      maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

                      93 festie
                      advanced suspension
                      kai/skeeter camber
                      b3t/g15mr

                      I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

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                      • Yeah, some of them are like that and you have to use washers. I'm glad you figured that out. It'll probably handle a lot better with everything tight.
                        Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                        • Originally posted by Festiver View Post
                          Ok to start my toe is perfect my suspension is all tight and snug everything seems perfect besides driving
                          So I'm having trouble
                          she sometimes wonders on the road like will randomly shoot to the right or left a little
                          she will turn hard left beautifully but turning right I need to turn way farther than it feels I should and it doesn't feel as tight
                          The wheel doesn't come all the way back straight by itself
                          Accelerating pulls to the right slightly but decelerating pulls to the left
                          All these problems point to a bad alignment but my camber and toe are great and caster is unadjustable so how could it be off really need help here I'm out of ideas



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                          Weird, I had the same symptoms when my anti-roll bar was sliding in the mount rubbers.
                          No car too fast !

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                          • Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
                            Weird, I had the same symptoms when my anti-roll bar was sliding in the mount rubbers.
                            How did you fix that new bushings?

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                            Festiver
                            93 L find/5 speed
                            BP/g15mr swapped
                            Aspire brake swapped
                            Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
                            stripped and sold due to rust

                            89 festie
                            rustful
                            maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

                            93 festie
                            advanced suspension
                            kai/skeeter camber
                            b3t/g15mr

                            I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

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                            • I used aftermarket conventional urethane and brackets, and it got worse!
                              Welded on washers to control bar movement, was a lot beter, new mounts from Australia cured that.
                              No car too fast !

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                              • Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
                                I used aftermarket conventional urethane and brackets, and it got worse!
                                Welded on washers to control bar movement, was a lot beter, new mounts from Australia cured that.
                                Would welding washers change the sway bars tension?

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                                Festiver
                                93 L find/5 speed
                                BP/g15mr swapped
                                Aspire brake swapped
                                Enough little mods I can spend a week trying to remember and still not get them all
                                stripped and sold due to rust

                                89 festie
                                rustful
                                maybe v8 maybe field buggy wont know till the time comes

                                93 festie
                                advanced suspension
                                kai/skeeter camber
                                b3t/g15mr

                                I will own a bpt cd-5 gtx clone one day

                                Comment

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