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  • The amount of boost that you can run will ultimately depend on compression ratio. Getting the fuel and ignition maps dialed in will definitely help.
    Tuning a car is not a matter of how many boosts you have. Being dead set on 20psI is counterproductive. Why not set your goals based on actual performance gains. 20psi may be slower than 16psi, especially if it nets you a nice hole it the block. Chances are very good that the little GTX is pushing quite a bit more air than that Chinese turbo that was on the car. Does the EVO engine management use the same O2 sensor as your wideband meter? You shouldn't run the car with a bad O2 sensor. The engine management has no way to fine tune your mixture and that's not a good thing on a setup like this. I'd make damn sure all the sensors are in good working order if you want to push this thing and you don't want an oily mess all over the firewall and bottom of your car. Every high hp BPt owner that's reading this is waiting for the inevitable boom that's about to happen if you don't tune this thing right.
    Last edited by Advancedynamix; 03-09-2017, 11:33 AM.
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    • Originally posted by bhazard View Post
      Are you getting rid of yours?

      YES!!
      Jerry
      Team Lightning



      Owner of Team Lightning
      90 L "Peewee" B6D. Bought new May 16,1990
      92 L Thunder BP G5M-R Turbo B6T electronics. Jan 2016 FOTM winner SOLD
      93 L Lightning. BP



      Not a user of drugs or alcohol, Just addicted to Festiva's

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      • Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
        The amount of boost that you can run will ultimately depend on compression ratio. Getting the fuel and ignition maps dialed in will definitely help.
        Tuning a car is not a matter of how many boosts you have. Being dead set on 20psI is counterproductive. Why not set your goals based on actual performance gains. 20psi may be slower than 16psi, especially if it nets you a nice hole it the block. Chances are very good that the little GTX is pushing quite a bit more air than that Chinese turbo that was on the car. Does the EVO engine management use the same O2 sensor as your wideband meter? You shouldn't run the car with a bad O2 sensor. The engine management has no way to fine tune your mixture and that's not a good thing on a setup like this. I'd make damn sure all the sensors are in good working order if you want to push this thing and you don't want an oily mess all over the firewall and bottom of your car. Every high hp BPt owner that's reading this is waiting for the inevitable boom that's about to happen if you don't tune this thing right.
        I dont actually care about the number! Thats just a ref point i have to give. I want the car to have plenty of power but be tuned somewhat safely. If i have 18 vs 20 thats fine i was just saying that i want to maximize it as much as i can.

        The evo system does not use the wieband. I actually dont think the evo system reads afr. Im not sure but i dont remember having a second 02 anywhere. I think its just set to what its set to. Clearly tho i have no clue...

        I am here talking about the tune because im trying to get it right! I would like to not blow it up! Its hard to know what you dont know tho. Im still learning here.

        I didnt know the 02 was bad until carlos started to change the tune and the 02 showed no changes even tho i could feel the car was different. I have a new wideband i will install tonight. Then we can work on the tune some more. Maybe dial in the fuel in the upper boost levels and then i can tune the boost doen to have a safety cap so to speak.
        1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
        1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
        1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
        19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
        1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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        • Originally posted by mikemounlio View Post
          I dont actually care about the number! Thats just a ref point i have to give. I want the car to have plenty of power but be tuned somewhat safely. If i have 18 vs 20 thats fine i was just saying that i want to maximize it as much as i can.
          As far as i understand you need to know the compression ratio to know what a safe level of boost is or how to tune it. Carlos shoud know what the ratio is. But 25psi might be safe for a low compression engine and 12 psi is safe for a real high compression engine everything else being the same. Thats how i understand it anyway, i could be wrong.



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          • Originally posted by ryanprins13 View Post
            As far as i understand you need to know the compression ratio to know what a safe level of boost is or how to tune it. Carlos shoud know what the ratio is. But 25psi might be safe for a low compression engine and 12 psi is safe for a real high compression engine everything else being the same. Thats how i understand it anyway, i could be wrong.



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            That sounds good to me. Im not sure which bp this motor is. I dont know what it came out of, or how many miles it has.
            1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
            1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
            1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
            19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
            1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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            • I must have missed it, what fuel are you tuning for?
              No car too fast !

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              • Originally posted by Team Lightning View Post
                YES!!
                I may be interested if Mike doesn't get it. Depending on your price.
                91GL BP/F3A with boost
                13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                • Originally posted by Dragonhealer View Post
                  I must have missed it, what fuel are you tuning for?
                  93.
                  1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
                  1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
                  1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
                  19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
                  1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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                  • The EVO system has no O2 correction? Isn't it from a Mitsubishi Evo? Even the stock Festiva management has O2 (albeit, narrow band and open loop at WOT.)
                    If Carlos can add that, I'd have him do it. That system should support wide band and I'd imagine that it will also autolearn. Most OEM systems newer than 1996 will autolearn.
                    Last edited by Advancedynamix; 03-09-2017, 06:41 PM.
                    Driving for me is neither a right nor a privilege. Driving is my passion, as it was for the people who invented the automobile, the people who paved the first roads and the people who continue to improve the automobile. Please respect this passion.

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                    • Originally posted by Advancedynamix View Post
                      The EVO system has no O2 correction? Isn't it from a Mitsubishi Evo? Even the stock Festiva management has O2 (albeit, narrow band as ND open loop at WOT.)
                      If Carlos can add that, I'd have him do it. That system should support wide band and I'd imagine that it will also autolearn. Most OEM systems newer than 1996 will autolearn.
                      I actually dont know much about it. My wideband does NOT hook up to the ecu tho. I dont know if i have a second 02 tho.
                      1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
                      1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
                      1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
                      19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
                      1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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                      • Originally posted by mikemounlio View Post
                        93.
                        Your tune will need to be VERY good, even then you probably can't do 20psi even at 7:1CR unless using water/meth injection or some other neat trick. I'll bet 100% Charlie is right, your noise is detonation.
                        No car too fast !

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                        • Greedy Mikey
                          91GL BP/F3A with boost
                          13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                          • well i happen to have a trunk mount meth kit.

                            and now i have an evo system for lucifer. gonna get the engine bay clean after all
                            1990 (LUCIFER 2.0) fully built BP+T with E153, Fueltech FT500, traction control with hopes of 600hp (i drank to much of the KOOL-AID)
                            1990 OverKILL BP+T, evo ecu system, coilovers, aspire brakes, full advanced suspension, Garrett! The Autocross toy!
                            1989 (BRITSTIVA 1.0) B6T and sold
                            19?? 150$ burnout car SOLD
                            1991 (STRESS RELIEF)SOLD

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                            • Don't you have corn juice over there?
                              Hell e85 is everywhere here . 100 low led is available down the road from me to.

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                              • The closest E85 to me is 25 miles away at minimum and that's in South Carolina. I know of nowhere with in 50 miles of me on the Ga side that has E85
                                Last edited by Team Lightning; 03-09-2017, 09:38 PM.
                                Jerry
                                Team Lightning



                                Owner of Team Lightning
                                90 L "Peewee" B6D. Bought new May 16,1990
                                92 L Thunder BP G5M-R Turbo B6T electronics. Jan 2016 FOTM winner SOLD
                                93 L Lightning. BP



                                Not a user of drugs or alcohol, Just addicted to Festiva's

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