Decisions decisions decisions...

[fastivaca]

...drill out the throttle cable attachment to fit the valve cover

Just use the bracket off the donor engine. Try and pick up the ECU from the 323 as well, making sure it has the correct number of plugs (can't remember if the Festiva is two or three).

I'm running with the stock Festiva transmission.

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[scitzz]

With those compression readings, it would be a close drag race with my '92.

We can run em!

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[georgeb]

With those compression readings, it would be a close drag race with my '92.

[scitzz]

OK, I really should have posted this in a different forum, and the powers that be are more than welcome to move it, like they need my permission

Any hole, I have been searching B6+swap and getting a ridiculous amount of returns. I have read over Nate's swap page. Found the Wikipedia article. I have been on here all night looking at things, and I am starting to wrap my head around this.



OK, I guess I can get a B6, SOHC, out of 85-89 323's. 87-90 Tracers. That is first gen, no? With those, I can use the festy wiring harness, with 323 injector plugs spliced in,and bolt right up with the donor intake and exhaust, drill out the throttle cable attachment to fit the VC, extend the brake hose, and basically swap right in.

What I am having trouble finding info on is the later models, second gen? Is it basically the same, or is there more?

I can use stock festy clutch setup?

I bet I think of more questions! Search suggestions are welcome, and so are links

TIA!

[Damkid]

You will NOT be disappointed with a V6 swap!

I couldn't agree more :lol:

[TominMO]

Yup, B6. Festys shoulda bin sold w/B6s and better brakes from the factory. Makes Festys even more awesome! But Ford brought 'em here because they had B3s, to meet the CAFE mileage standards.

[fastivaca]

You will NOT be disappointed with a B6 swap! If there is a drawback it's that your right arm will get much less of a workout with the reduced number of downshifts

Did mine in about 12 hours.. drove it into the garage under B3 power on a Friday afternoon and drove it out under B6 power on Sunday. And that's doing the bulk of the work myself.

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[scitzz]

Well if your gunna do an engine swap, might as well add a couple more cylinders jk

Good luck gettin er' all fixed up and ready for the next 400k miles

I showed this to the wife, and she is down, which is more than I can say for me, I just don't think I am capable of pulling off stuffing two more cylinders in there right now!

[Bert]

Well if your gunna do an engine swap, might as well add a couple more cylinders jk

Good luck gettin er' all fixed up and ready for the next 400k miles

One of these days you'll show us how you managed to shoehorn a vintage non-transverse-mount aluminum block GM/Buick 215 V8 into the front of a Festy. There's enough of a tunnel there to do the rear drive thing and maybe you can retain a Festy motor somewhere in there as a spare to function as starter motor or to run the compressor, sound/PA system or A/C.

[Damkid]

Well if your gunna do an engine swap, might as well add a couple more cylinders jk

Good luck gettin er' all fixed up and ready for the next 400k miles

[scitzz]

No, it wasn't 400k, thats true. But if you are getting 170/150 on the two "good" cylinders then I'd put money on a valve job bringing you back into the 150/160 range across the bouard at least. Not perfect by any means, but should run much better. Just offering it as a cheap/quick alternative to completely rebuilding an engine you are already making plans to replace in the future. It would just buy you a good bit of time to thoroughly plan out a swap and source parts rather than just pick up the nearest available B6 and drop it in

You have a point, and I sure didn't mean to be dismissive!

As it is, though, I am skert to death to do it that way. As it is, I have a runner, and can get that B-6, and all my parts sourced, lined up, and then drop them in in the next week or so. If I go the other route, and I blow out a ring or two, again, then I am Skee-roood!

Bert, this engine alone has 400K, mostly those city miles, ie, pizza delivery! Mazda built tough sewing machines for sure!

[Bert]

Some of us, particularly those with oodles of spare time, love an excuse to upgrade an engine. I don't have 400k on any of my 3 cars but they're all approaching 200 k (miles) now.
Highway miles are no where near as hard on a motor as stop/start cold runs to the beer store or mailbox. I'll say this much for Mazda; they have learned to make good and sturdy engines. "Sewing machine power plants" of the 60s and 70s wore out in a jiffy compared to today's stuff.

[htchbck]

No, it wasn't 400k, thats true. But if you are getting 170/150 on the two "good" cylinders then I'd put money on a valve job bringing you back into the 150/160 range across the bouard at least. Not perfect by any means, but should run much better. Just offering it as a cheap/quick alternative to completely rebuilding an engine you are already making plans to replace in the future. It would just buy you a good bit of time to thoroughly plan out a swap and source parts rather than just pick up the nearest available B6 and drop it in

[scitzz]

However nothing perks up your spirits more than plotting to rejuvenate a car that has by and large been faithful. And from what I understand a B6 swap is child's play compared to twin cams or B8s.

By and large? LOL!

Baby Car is a rolling testament to the toughness that is a Festiva! Neglected, beat on, and generally abused in ways no vehicle should ever be, since I got her in 93 with less than a mile on her, she has been keeping my family going for the last 3/4 of a million miles!

Rule number one, Baby Car gets fixed first!

[scitzz]

Oh, and something evil is happening inside number 2 to close the gap like that, I mean, it was touching!