ECU Options?

[Advancedynamix]

Just use the b6t ECM. It'll run that big turbo. It won't be perfect, but it'll work better than what you've got now.

[bhearts]

I was considering ordering from Carlos. Hopefully he gets his stuff figured out

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[Flyin4stroke]

I'm pretty tight with Carlos at bp specialties. That being said he doesn't really mess with b6t for one. Also he doesn't really mess with megasquirt, or any other Ecu because it's too hard to know them all. He also has orders to fill from everyone and he is working by himself. Did I bring him a megasquirt and he tune it, yes. But it's not that he can't do it, it's just he doesn't have time to learn everyones different system. Which is why he made his own. He also uses junkyard parts. So how I got my harness and Ecu is I ordered my own Ecu from eBay and he provided the harness and coils. I was begging for a harness for about 3 months since I popped my last bp from bad dizzy wires. There is a waiting list. You don't just hop in front of everyone because you have $. I'm sure it's true he is out of ecu's at the moment but not that he won't ever have any, it's just you can't wait 10 min.
I have a ms I'll let go for $500 plug into stock Festiva harness and go. If you haven't cut it up that is.

[mikemounlio]

I'm pretty tight with Carlos at bp specialties. That being said he doesn't really mess with b6t for one. Also he doesn't really mess with megasquirt, or any other Ecu because it's too hard to know them all. He also has orders to fill from everyone and he is working by himself. Did I bring him a megasquirt and he tune it, yes. But it's not that he can't do it, it's just he doesn't have time to learn everyones different system. Which is why he made his own. He also uses junkyard parts. So how I got my harness and Ecu is I ordered my own Ecu from eBay and he provided the harness and coils. I was begging for a harness for about 3 months since I popped my last bp from bad dizzy wires. There is a waiting list. You don't just hop in front of everyone because you have $. I'm sure it's true he is out of ecu's at the moment but not that he won't ever have any, it's just you can't wait 10 min.
I have a ms I'll let go for $500 plug into stock Festiva harness and go. If you haven't cut it up that is.

I get all that. He doesnt give me much details. He just daid out of ecu go to a junkyard! If he had just told me straight up what the issue is i could simply wait or go find what he is missing. He just doesnt like to talk to me very much. Im not mad at him or anything i just need to be told what is what!

[Flyin4stroke]

He is very busy. He doesn't like talking to anyone very much he just likes things getting done. He gets mad at me because I take my time and don't play cars everyday but it's all I can do. Don't take it the wrong way. And from what I understand he tried to help you a lot already. This guy works on gtr and Evo all day. He has a lot going on. Some random questions about a Ecu he doesn't have his hands on is going to be hard for anyone to diagnose.

For forward action I would either find a Evo Ecu. And then tell him you need a harness which he has the materials to provide.

Or buy a megasquirt and plug it into your car and deal with tuning which isn't incredibly hard they have b6t base maps. And if you buy from ms it takes about 4 weeks to get the Ecu.

He will answer your questions but you need to have an idea of what you are trying to do. There should be a reason you are upgrading the Ecu not just because everyone is doing it. Your chipped Ecu would work fine like Charlie has said and they make fmu's for more fuel. There's a million ways to skin a cat.

[mikemounlio]

He is very busy. He doesn't like talking to anyone very much he just likes things getting done. He gets mad at me because I take my time and don't play cars everyday but it's all I can do. Don't take it the wrong way. And from what I understand he tried to help you a lot already. This guy works on gtr and Evo all day. He has a lot going on. Some random questions about a Ecu he doesn't have his hands on is going to be hard for anyone to diagnose.

For forward action I would either find a Evo Ecu. And then tell him you need a harness which he has the materials to provide.

Or buy a megasquirt and plug it into your car and deal with tuning which isn't incredibly hard they have b6t base maps. And if you buy from ms it takes about 4 weeks to get the Ecu.

He will answer your questions but you need to have an idea of what you are trying to do. There should be a reason you are upgrading the Ecu not just because everyone is doing it. Your chipped Ecu would work fine like Charlie has said and they make fmu's for more fuel. There's a million ways to skin a cat.

Dude im all new to this! Yes he helped me a bunch. Most of the time he just confused me which is why it drug on so long. When i would ask a question i would get half to a 1/4 the response i needed. I did everything as he said but come to find out my ecu might have been bad all alone. Then i tried my msd but couldnt get spark out of it. It might be bad as well. It has sat for a year with mudd on it.

Anyway i get it man i do. Like i said im not mad. I might go with a different system just to make things easier. If he is to busy he should have told me to move on or something. I i did pay him some. I even offered to pay him 100$ extra at one time for all his help. I wanted his system because i was told good thing about it. I want my car to run good without issue. I dont want to have to always mess with it.

Anyway i have not made up my mind as to what im going to do. I might try to fix the stock harness back up and give that a try.

[Flyin4stroke]

We are all in your same boat [emoji1399]. Just as a by stander I see you may have put some unreal expectations on your build and I don't want that to hinder you with festivas in general. My car has been sitting in my driveway for 3 months. Not because I'm not active with it. Because these cars aren't everyone else's cup of tea like a mustang or camaro you can get parts at wal mart. There is some finesse that goes into every part.

Like Charlie for example went through and made a awesome write-up for you to have pics the hole 9. That's awesome and what we need more of. But not everything is tried and true so we only have xp (experience points). Ms has been used in at least 5 top running festivas. I'm sure a lot more are out there it's a tried and trued system that works with these cars we know that. Evo is brand new only running on a couple festys at the moment.

It's best to ask before you make your own judgements not just jump into it thinking it's all the same. We all want to the lead the way but I know I've made plenty of hard headed mistakes. Don't hold onto a mistake just because you spent a long time making it.

Buy a hole efi harness and install into the car if you question your harness. That's what I did.

[mikemounlio]

We are all in your same boat [emoji1399]. Just as a by stander I see you may have put some unreal expectations on your build and I don't want that to hinder you with festivas in general. My car has been sitting in my driveway for 3 months. Not because I'm not active with it. Because these cars aren't everyone else's cup of tea like a mustang or camaro you can get parts at wal mart. There is some finesse that goes into every part.

Like Charlie for example went through and made a awesome write-up for you to have pics the hole 9. That's awesome and what we need more of. But not everything is tried and true so we only have xp (experience points). Ms has been used in at least 5 top running festivas. I'm sure a lot more are out there it's a tried and trued system that works with these cars we know that. Evo is brand new only running on a couple festys at the moment.

It's best to ask before you make your own judgements not just jump into it thinking it's all the same. We all want to the lead the way but I know I've made plenty of hard headed mistakes. Don't hold onto a mistake just because you spent a long time making it.

Buy a hole efi harness and install into the car if you question your harness. That's what I did.

I was trying to buy a complete system! I wanted Carlos to do it because of what I heard about his work. It's only now that we are having issues! I get that he doesn't have time or materials to help me THAT'S OK I'M NOT MAD! I'm in this thread looking for help! I never looked into megasquirt. I don't know anything about them yet. I think I'm going to go with them on this one.

Me being new to all of this is just making it a pity. It takes me a while to understand it! This is not really what I'm good at!

Anyway. I had someone offer me a ms-I'm thinking about getting it. I just gotta find out what all I need to do to make it all work out now.

I originally thought the rocket chip couldn't handle the new turbo and injectors. Plus I don't want a crappy tune. I would like it to be running good. I don't truly care about hitting xxhp I just want a good bit of power to be there.

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http://www.stratifiedauto.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=103_104_223

[blake4591]

Personally I would recommend a Mega or microsquirt. There is amazing support for both and there are guides that can walk you through an install. The best part is that they are both easily modified so if you want to change anything (injectors, dizzy to coil, add or remove sensors) you can do it yourself and then touch up the tune. I
used a microsquirt on my first 2.3L turbo ford and it worked out great. Just take your time and make sure you understand how the ECU is talking to the engine. Easiest way to ruin a turbo engine is a bad tune.


Here is a microsquirt with 30" harness. Just splice it one wire at a time into the factory harness or get an extra ECU and gut it to get the plug for the factory harness.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/232014641048?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

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http://www.stratifiedauto.com/index....th=103_104_223

I think this is your best bet at this point. Get the escort one. Make sure your festiva harness is all good.

[mikemounlio]

I can make my own harness if i have a good wire code. Orange wire=xxx. So if i buy a MS i can run it stand alone just like i was gonna do with the microtech. I had ethe micro tech working. the car ran. It just didnt run for long. I shut it down tho. it didnt die. Then the coil went out as well as the igniter. So something went wrong in the ecu or it was bad somehow. I think i could wire in a megasquirt. There isenough info already out there to help me out.

Now i need to figure out if i need to go COP or not and if so how. Will start looking into it tonight.

[Advancedynamix]

If you run a microsquirt, you can run COP as long as your coils are driven via logic level signal. GM (coils off a newer Chevy V8 truck) coils are a good cheap option that are easy to wire up and easy to replace if you ever have to. They aren't COP, they have short plug leads on them, which makes them easy to adapt to older engines.

[Flyin4stroke]

stratified megasquirt plug n play. This replaces your efi Ecu and you are done. Add the one wire for the vaf. There is no wiring to go wrong or missed wiring. That is all you do. It's brainless really. It will run better with a factory Ecu over any aftermarket unit. Unless it's professionally tuned. Chipped stock Ecu's are awesome I ran 1 until I went bp.

[mikemounlio]

stratified megasquirt plug n play. This replaces your efi Ecu and you are done. Add the one wire for the vaf. There is no wiring to go wrong or missed wiring. That is all you do. It's brainless really. It will run better with a factory Ecu over any aftermarket unit. Unless it's professionally tuned. Chipped stock Ecu's are awesome I ran 1 until I went bp.

So will my rocket chip ecu work just fine then? If so i can patch the wiring back together and have it going asap!