2001 kia rio manual transmission swap?

[tderonne]

I think this is the newest Rio trans thread. What's the latest? Is it really a G series? Different enough that it clears the rack better? Does it move the inner CV's rearward in the car? Anyone weigh one vs. a Festiva e-series?

[nitrofarm]

I think this is the newest Rio trans thread. What's the latest? Is it really a G series? Different enough that it clears the rack better? Does it move the inner CV's rearward in the car? Anyone weigh one vs. a Festiva e-series?

It def is NOT a G series,but it has a G diff. And obviously a F clutch. And since it has an F clutch it leads me to believe that the gears and input shaft are F series. But still way better than an e series. Plus its NON Hydro!

[tderonne]

I really like the gear ratios of the later box (.97 4th and .79 5th). Guess I gotta hit some junkyards... 1.6L Kia Rio is it? F-clutch, what flywheel?

[JPT]

I really like the gear ratios of the later box (.97 4th and .79 5th). Guess I gotta hit some junkyards... 1.6L Kia Rio is it? F-clutch, what flywheel?

I'm going to be using a Rio flywheel. By next weekend, I'll know if the swap can be done with an F series flywheel (I have one to compare).

The 4th and 5th gear ratios you list are for early transmissions. 2003 and later have a .91:1 4th and a .73:1 5th.

I could be wrong though. I read that '01 had a 4.17:1 final drive and '02 had a 3.90:1, but zoom zoom counted the teeth in his '02 and came up with 4.105:1

I'll be using a Rio clutch.

[tderonne]

Hmmm, other thread linked above had the later cars getting the closer ratios. Gotta see what I can find.

1.6 flywheel? That'll bolt on your B8? I'll be doing it with a B3. Might be stuck with the B3 flywheel and making a starter work.

[JPT]

1.6 flywheel? That'll bolt on your B8? I'll be doing it with a B3. Might be stuck with the B3 flywheel and making a starter work.

I'm using a flywheel off of a 1.5 liter. Rio engines, until they went to Hyundai parts (in 2006?), are based on the Mazda B series design.

[tderonne]

Dang, service manuals show only the close ratio gearing for the 2001-2005, with a 4.167 final drive ratio...

(Service manuals are online at kiatechinfo.com)

[nitrofarm]

I'm going to be using a Rio flywheel. By next weekend, I'll know if the swap can be done with an F series flywheel (I have one to compare).

The 4th and 5th gear ratios you list are for early transmissions. 2003 and later have a .91:1 4th and a .73:1 5th.

I could be wrong though. I read that '01 had a 4.17:1 final drive and '02 had a 3.90:1, but zoom zoom counted the teeth in his '02 and came up with 4.105:1

I'll be using a Rio clutch.

Dont forget Shadetree mentioned he used an F clutch.......

[jason_]

Where's some good docs on the f g and e series differences?

I mention these series to junk yards and they just stare at me...

What years/cars had what and such...

I'm not sure what my aspire has.

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[nitrofarm]

Where's some good docs on the f g and e series differences?

I mention these series to junk yards and they just stare at me...

What years/cars had what and such...

I'm not sure what my aspire has.

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http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/showthread.php?11540-FAQ-Manual-Transmission-Swap-%28last-post-updated-1-19-10%29

[jason_]

http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/sh...ted-1-19-10%29

Much appreciated.

Something tells me I'm lucky to still have a functional gearbox after snapping clutch countless times @5800rpm...

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[tderonne]

But, dang the Escort GT trans is even closer ratio. Suck it up and go that route? About the same weight? (Stock trans is a little under 60 pounds) Same size around the diff (where it is close to the rack)? Just need different mounts?

[nitrofarm]

But, dang the Escort GT trans is even closer ratio. Suck it up and go that route? About the same weight? Same size around the diff (where it is close to the rack)? Just need different mounts?

http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/showthread.php?11540-FAQ-Manual-Transmission-Swap-%28last-post-updated-1-19-10%29

[tderonne]

Yup, read that. Nothing comparing the Kia trans to a real G series.

[nitrofarm]

Yup, read that. Nothing comparing the Kia trans to a real G series.

Dont know about the weight of the KIA,but as far as I can tell all your other questions are addressed in this thread already.......