Cruise control

[F3BZ]

now i know why you asked about the letters. i still stand by my answer BUT! the only C.C. kits listed on the fiches for festiva are E8BZ9A818A and F0BZ9A818A. i suspect the E8 kit has an orange lettered control stalk and some harnesses / cables that allow it to be installed on the carbuerated festivas. i know the F0 kit has a white lettered stalk and no instructions / parts for installing it on a carbuerated festiva. i will be VERY interested to see what you get. it might be possible that it is a an unlisted hybrid kit that takes care of carbuerated and F I installations. uber rare! post the parts list sheet when you get it.

[KingFish]

This thread is immortal. Holy crap.

[F3BZ]

more thinking on this. the only reason ford would have to issue this 1989 kit would be to address the need to adapt or include peices to allow it to be used on the 1989 automatic EFI car. the 1988 kit would still cover the 88-89 manual FBC cars. the 1990 kits cover automatic and manual EFI installations. i guess ford couldn't issue a part number from the future (1990) to apply to a 1989 car or they weren't sure there would be a festiva beyond 1989.

[F3BZ]

too curious to let this post die. did the cruise kit arrive yet? pics?

[bravekozak]

I will get it when I pick up the Four Green air shipment which I have already ordered and paid for.
Everything will be shipped to Lewiston, NY. Yes, I will post pictures and scan all instructions.

[F3BZ]

oh ya sorry. i forgot you have to "Cruise" down to NY to get your packages.

[bravekozak]

I cruised down to NY in my van today and got my packages. My assumptions were correct. The cable on the actuator was extra long, in order to be located in a suitable mounting point. The actuator comes with two brackets. One for carb and one for EFI. Everything that was in the original manual was present. There are some differences in the manuals. I will scan everything and post contents with detailed comments tomorrow. Wait until you see the nice cruise handle with orange lettering. It has weight!
What's really hilarious, is the fact that it comes with a limited warranty that must be filled out and sent in. One of the questions is: Mileage at installation/purchase. It's got white pink and yellow copies. Should I bother filling it out and send it in to Ford after it's installed? at 134,000 miles?

[bravekozak]

I spoke too soon. The speed sensor assembly (208-3277) and the EFI servo bracket (301-7117) are both missing from this kit. I have requested an explanation from NOS parts who verified that everything was present.

The question I have now, is that I know what the kit part numbers are. But, how do the kit part numbers relate to the regular Ford part numbers?

For instance, E8BZ-9D757-A is supposed to be 202-2132, the Ford Festiva Regulator Assembly (Cruise Computer). Green Sales shows 16 of them in inventory!
When I checked on eBay, the item was not listed any more. I did find a listing for E73Z-9D757-A. Every Ford car with the exception of the Ford Festiva uses it. Check out the list if you don't believe me. Why does the Festiva need a different sensor? Do you think it has anything to do with 12 inch wheels? Like I said before, it shouldn't matter what speed, it would just try to maintain a steady rate of magnetic pulses. Anyone have any ideas? Bewildered, baffled and confused. Cannot sleep tonight. Also, I still can't get over the length of the servo cable. It's over six feet long!
I believe the Ford base part number for the Speed sensor assembly is -7M101-AA- .
But I cannot find any prefixes ending in BZ on Rear Counter.

[Oren09]

The cruise unit in my car is an SCS/Frigette aftermarket one. I believe it was dealer installed. There are DIP switches on it, I assume for programming for multiple vehicles. The whole system looks a lot like the Ford one. The servo appears to be an exact duplicate. Mine was on an auto car and doesn't have a clutch switch nor does it have the vacuum switch used in the Ford unit.
When I pulled mine from the yard, it didn't have the speed sensor so I ordered one from Rock Auto. It works great without any problems.

[bravekozak]

Here is the packing list + the manual. I scanned it with my G4050 that I picked up yesterday at the same time.

[bravekozak]

Here are two pictures of the kit contents. I will not post again until after these pieces are installed.

[bravekozak]

I need a clutch switch that is the opposite of what we have in our Festivas. I have found RX7 switches are similar. When the clutch is out the plunger is pushed in and current does not flow through the switch. The Ford cruise computer requires that there be no current flow through the switch when the clutch pedal is depressed.
The question is, does anyone know if the Mitsubishi Eclipse clutch switch is normally open?

[bravekozak]

The seller confirmed rhat this switch is normally closed.
There always seems to be confusion about normally open or normally closed.
By definition, the contacts are either open or closed when there is no external force applied to the switch. The Ford cruise computer is looking for a break in the current if either the brake or clutch pedal are pressed. Therefore I require a normally open switch, where the clutch pedal presses against the switch button to close the circuit.

Is the stop lamp switch normally open? Power comes from the STOP fuse through the Green/White wire.

[crazyrog17]

Stop lamp ( brake on off ) switch is normally closed. It completes the circuit when released/brake is depressed.
You could use a relay or two, to provide the right signal.

[bravekozak]

Thanks, but I found a Suzuki Samurai switch that looks like it will take the place of the Mazda switch. The seller says:
Hi, Its open. It closes the circuit when depressed. Thanks, Mike
I am just waiting to see if the thread is M10 X 1.25

I asked the BMW guy the same question but the Suzuki guy responded immediately.

I am not going to use that little micro switch. Not needed, because I don't have an ECU.