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    As some of you know, I've started removing my b3 from my Aspire, it's also been tore down to the shell on the outside, and the only things remaining is the suspension/seats/carpet/and dash, which will all come out eventually.

    My plans are to turbo a BP and make about 200 hp with it, I know it's not going to be easy, but with time and your help, I think it can be done.

    Let me be clear, I don't know what I'm talking about. That being said, please let me know if something I say is off, so I can do this right. Even with all the time I've put in researching on here and in books and on the web, mistakes are going to be made.

    I've already done some things to the car, the list includes but is not limited to..

    General Maintenance:
    new speedometer, old one quit
    new driver side drive axel
    NGK V-Power Spark Plugs
    Regular Oil Changes every 3k-5k mi. (5w-20 in winter/5w-30 in summer)
    Fixed front bumper (bottom was ready to fall off)
    Headlight Lens Restoration with Maguiars Polishing Compound & kit
    Patched fist sized hole in rear pillar plastic
    New Lower Control Arms (driver AND passenger side)
    Upgraded LCA bushings to Moog polyurethane bushings (K9737)
    Driver Side Tie Rod End/balljoint
    Freed up/Antiseized E-brake levers Replaced E-brake levers on driver side
    New Drum Brake Spring kit on both sides
    Tightened up Clutch Cable Flushed Coolant System, new 50/50 mix
    Fixed Crossmember-Frame Mounting Bolt
    Popped out fender dent & bondo'd
    Cleaned/sanded and painted hubcaps
    Painted Windshield Wiper Arms

    ........

    Modifications:
    02 Kia Rio front strut/spring swap
    Cold Air Intake w/ custom corroplast box
    Power Door Lock Actuators
    Power hatch Actuator
    Keyless Entry System
    Aftermarket CD Player (looking to upgrade)
    1000w Sony Xplod Amp
    12" DVC Rockford Fosgate Sub
    6" Xplod Speaker Upgrade in doors
    Custom Dash Buttons, one toggles sub/amp, one toggles hatch popper
    Keyless REMOTELESS Entry (top secret need marsec lvl 3 clearance)
    Blue Dash Lights
    Aftermarket Tachometer install
    Aftermarket Vacuum Gauge
    Painted rear half of interior Panels
    Spare Tire delete

    ...........

    Most of that can be seen in the build threads on fa.com
    Old thread
    http://fordaspire.5.forumer.com/inde...showtopic=5450
    New Thread
    http://aspire.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=53&st=0

    And more pictures on my photobucket account, should be public, feel free to browse the pics..(let me know if this link fails)

    http://m844.photobucket.com/albums/m...cKy5tDftKmc%3D



    So, my goal is a 200 hp BPT, but for now, I need to get the motor and get it ready to be turbo'd, which will include freshening up the motor and some work on the head. I've been looking for a donor car, but haven't found one yet, car-part.com has a few engines within 100 miles of me, I'm looking for an escort GT motor because I want the Ford valve cover.

    They have a couple 91's a couple 94's and a couple other years, I heard you want an early bp motor, so a 91 is what I'm after right?

    I'll also need a distributor, starter, alternator, and intake manifold from the same engine, anything else? I plan on running a MS system, so the vaf isn't needed. Anything else I need to know before purchasing the motor?
    2008 Kia Rio- new beater
    1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
    1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
    1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
    1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
    1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
    1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
    1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



    "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

  • #2
    Why an early motor? Early ones have the small crank snout.

    Also get a mazda bp, they have the "main bearing support plate". Way easier to throw a ford VC on a mazda bp than pull a mbsp off a mazda bp and put it in a ford bp.
    91GL BP/F3A with boost
    13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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    • #3
      i 2nd the mazda BP. While a normal driver wont notice a change in longevity, spirited driving and boosted applications greatly benefit from the added strength to keep flexing from occuring at the mains.
      1992 Festiva... BP-T, Escort G5MR, no crossmember, aspire brakes, Megasquirt, Toyota COP's, coilovers and 6 puck SPEC clutch!

      T3/T4 Turbo Power! G5MR and BP since '04!

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      • #4
        K, I read something about oil and coolant holes already in the block with early bp's, which is why I was thinking I needed one.

        So I'm looking for a 90-94 Mazda Protege 1.8?

        Car part says there is a couple 94's a 93 and a 92 within 100 miles, should I try for the later years or would it matter?
        zoom zoom
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        Last edited by zoom zoom; 01-14-2012, 03:45 PM.
        2008 Kia Rio- new beater
        1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
        1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
        1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
        1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
        1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
        1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
        1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



        "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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        • #5
          Also, what parts do I need to keep from my b3 for this swap? Is anything going to be the same? I'd like to sell the motor and transmission since I won't be using them anymore, but I don't want to sell something and have to buy it back from somewhere else.
          2008 Kia Rio- new beater
          1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
          1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
          1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
          1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
          1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
          1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
          1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



          "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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          • #6
            Whatever had the lowest miles and a large nose crank.

            You're swapping to a G series too right?
            91GL BP/F3A with boost
            13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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            • #7
              Yea, I'm looking at a 02 Kia Rio 5 speed I hope will turn out to be a G series transmission that will work, if not I'll have to find another transmission. I don't see a point in spending a couple thousand dollars on parts to build something that's gonna break so I definately won't be using the stock transmission.
              2008 Kia Rio- new beater
              1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
              1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
              1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
              1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
              1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
              1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
              1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



              "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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              • #8
                I have a large nose later BP and it has the turbo lines drilled and tapped. its the 95+ that don't.
                89 Festiva L Carby 4 Speed... RIP. Evicted and Scrapped. I HATE MY FAMILY
                94 aspire 3 door Red -- Former BP, V6 KLDE swap underway! RIP... Rotted and Flooded out...
                2012 Mazda 2 Touring 5 Speed... It's Very, Very, Very green... Daily Driver
                1964 Barracuda 360 V8 Push Button 904 Auto, New Money Pit

                Facebook Me!

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                • #9
                  Ah, ok.

                  Another question, how much does a b3 weigh approximately, just the block and head, no more than 200 lbs right? Maybe 250?! I need to pull it out of my car and I don't have a cherrypicker, but if it's not too much I have an idea of how to get it out.
                  2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                  1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                  1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                  1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                  1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                  1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                  1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                  1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                  "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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                  • #10
                    Drop it out the bottom.

                    Id say not even 150 actually.
                    91GL BP/F3A with boost
                    13.79 @ 100, 2.2 60' on 8 psi and 155R12's

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                    • #11
                      nerd: does a b8 block have the same holes drilled? I never looked at mine as its a n/a car
                      1993 GL 5 speed

                      It's a MazdaFordnKia thing, and you will understand!

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                      • #12
                        it'll be kinda hard for me to drop it out of the bottom, I've got it jacked way up in the air, probably 2', but that's about as high as I trust my jackstands to go. I have an idea, and I'm pretty sure it will work, but I don't want to say it right now because someone's gonna end up going crazy and say it's probably not going to work lol, my fiance already told me i'm not "allowed" to do that, but what does she know. (famous last words)

                        anyway, the old a/c condenser probably isn't going to work, so should I go ahead and remove all the air conditioning compotents? I really don't care about air conditioning in the summer, even in the tripple digit days I cruise with the windows down. A little less weight won't hurt anything anyway. The book says have it serviced by a dealer dept, but is there a "safe" way for me to disconnect the hoses without spraying freon everywhere?
                        2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                        1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                        1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                        1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                        1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                        1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                        1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                        1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                        "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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                        • #13
                          Drop crossmember?
                          1993 GL 5 speed

                          It's a MazdaFordnKia thing, and you will understand!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zoom zoom View Post
                            it'll be kinda hard for me to drop it out of the bottom, I've got it jacked way up in the air, probably 2', but that's about as high as I trust my jackstands to go. I have an idea, and I'm pretty sure it will work, but I don't want to say it right now because someone's gonna end up going crazy and say it's probably not going to work lol, my fiance already told me i'm not "allowed" to do that, but what does she know. (famous last words)

                            anyway, the old a/c condenser probably isn't going to work, so should I go ahead and remove all the air conditioning compotents? I really don't care about air conditioning in the summer, even in the tripple digit days I cruise with the windows down. A little less weight won't hurt anything anyway. The book says have it serviced by a dealer dept, but is there a "safe" way for me to disconnect the hoses without spraying freon everywhere?
                            You need to take it to a shop who can evac the system dry before you disconnect any lines. "legal way"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JoDan View Post
                              You need to take it to a shop who can evac the system dry before you disconnect any lines. "legal way"
                              Ah, gotcha, I'll get it taken care of, 2 of my uncles are hvac installers, maybe one of them can stop by on their way home sometime and do it for me, they mainly do commercial work, but might be able to do this.
                              zoom zoom
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                              Last edited by zoom zoom; 01-15-2012, 03:28 AM.
                              2008 Kia Rio- new beater
                              1987 F-150- revived and CLEAN!!!
                              1987 Suzuki Dual Sport- fun beater bike
                              1993 Festiva- Fiona, DD
                              1997 Aspire- Peaspire, Refurb'd, sold
                              1997 Aspire- Babyspire, DD
                              1994 Aspire - Project Kiazord
                              1994 Aspire- Crustyspire, RIP



                              "If it moves, grease it, if it don't, paint it, and if it ain't broke don't fix it!"

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