Roll cage pictures needed

[ryanprins13]

I have saved every photo of crashed festivas i have come across for the last couple years. I have been interested in how vehicles react to crashes for quite a while because of the job i used to have. I just skimmed through them all again after reading this. Festivas really dont do that badly in crashes compared to any other vehicle. Honestly. I think a standard roll cage will do you fine. All your trying to do is keep the cabin from crumpling, just like any car with a cage. And any other car is heavier requiring more attention to the cage.
Ill just share one or 2 photos. This is a caged ice racer. If i remember correctly this festiva was doing 70-80mph and t-boned a stationary vw sirraco.
This uncaged festiva here was rear-ended and sandwiched hard. Worst type of crash for a festiva. With even the most basic/rudimentary roll cage the passengers head would be fine. Perhaps even no roll cage and just a helmit.

Amyway, like i said, i got tons of these and they dont look much worse than other cars.
Ok, heres one of the specific area your worried about. Cant see inside the footwell but thats a real hard hit and it dont look bad from this angle.

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[Doug Brown]

While not Festiva's, if you Google "rally car crashes" you will see LOTS of videos clips of similar size and shaped cars hitting and crashing into everything imaginable.

Lots of rollover pictures, hitting trees and rock walls, etc. -- from inside the car and from outside. Gives you an excellent idea of just how well cages work.

[ryanprins13]

While not Festiva's, if you Google "rally car crashes" you will see LOTS of videos clips of similar size and shaped cars hitting and crashing into everything imaginable.

Lots of rollover pictures, hitting trees and rock walls, etc. -- from inside the car and from outside. Gives you an excellent idea of just how well cages work.

Watching rally car crashes on youtube helps a lot too. That way you realize how hard they are hitting and what happens to the car.
Its amazing to see those guys hit trees head on or sideways at 100mph, roll 20 times or nosedive into a solid bank and hop out after.
Almost as important as your roll cage is your safety harness. Your seat and what your harness attaches to cannot move! They have to be very well protected. If the bar your harness bolts to kinks or your seat moves your belt loosens and you hit stuff. Doesnt matter if your whole car crumples, as long as it doesnt hit you too hard or you hit it your good.
This is my all time favorate video i think. Guy trying to set the world record for the longest jump fails and nosedives. It really shows what a well built cage can handle. I recommend watching the whole thing but skip ahead a bit if your only interested in the jump. https://youtu.be/HWOANXNGrZc

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[Advancedynamix]

There are guys on here that have crashed Festivas just for fun. Fordfester has been using them in demolition derby figure 8 racing for a decade or more. They really do fair well in collisions.
The foot well area is pretty soft. Dragonhealer actually owns a car that looks fine on the outside, but must have eaten a fence post or sign post at one time and the passenger foot well was invaded by the post. If someone was sitting in the passenger seat, it would have been ugly. That's a really weird accident though. Kind of like the cinder block dropped from a highway overpass. You can't plan for everything.
On our LeMons car, we plated the passenger foot well with 1/8" steel. It's not pretty, but it'll take a hit.

[Sid_RallyX_82]

As a guide:
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These are NASA. Check the regulations of your specific sanctioning body

[Sid_RallyX_82]

Here is FIA
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[Sid_RallyX_82]

FIA Article 253.8.3
Safety cages

http://www.fia.com/file/54650/download/17461?token=mQiBfplj