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Originally posted by mattdickmeyer View PostAt no time did I ever say anything about over boring .120. The measurement that I did come up with is a finished bore size of 2.875, which is .080. When developing products, such as pistons, there are several considerations to remember. It's not as simple as making a biggest piston that will fit. First & foremost, a bore size that will still retain sufficient cylinder wall rigidity. Secondly, a bore that will have a positive effect on combustion chamber configuration. Thirdly, and sometimes most importantly, is a bore size in which a quality high performance ring size is available in. On this engine, .060 & .080 accomplishes these things well. And in my opinion, a stroker kit would be worthless because of the cost. Most of you want a product that is easy to install & offers significant power gains. This is why I started with a cylinder head & valve train kit & header kit, as this addresses the B3's main deficiency. Simple bolt ons such as CAI's & high flow exhaust systems only work if the vehicle manufacturer left something on the table ( in terms of engine performance ). In the case of the B3 Festiva, this just isn't so. They just don't make a difference by themselves. That is why I think starting with the top end really starts to crack this engine open. I am considering a high performance intake manifold that would work with EFI or carb ( to make production more cost effective ).
as for the stroker end of things (you can see i'm kinda stuck on this idea for some reason), asside from the cost standpoint (knowing that the last time i saw a stroker crank for the B3/6 block went for $2400 each) what other detraments do you see from attemting such a mod? as i understand it, the longer stroke will produce a stonger intake pulse and allow the power produced to act upon the crank over a longer procutive period. and at the relativly low rpm limits of our ECUs, i can only see gains here.
thoughts? (please be patient with me, i'm good with theory but love to see the results of real world application, i'm really just wanting to learn)
oh and if you like, i have a spare G1 B6 head that i can send along with the cams for "other" developements (seeing that many members here also have B6 swaps and that they are so similar to the B3 as well. Note: this is NOT an attempt to move things in the B6 direction, but more a possible hybrid?)Last edited by FestYboy; 12-26-2012, 08:01 PM.Trees aren't kind to me...
currently: 2 88Ls (Scrappy and Jersey), 88LX, 90L(Pepe), 91L, 91GL (Skippy) 93 GL Sport (the Mighty Favakk), 94 (Bruce) & 95 Aspire SEs, 97 Aspire (The Joker),
94 Justy 4WD, 87 Fiero GT, plus 2 parts cars. That's my fleet.
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Originally posted by Movin View PostWould .040 pistons on the bottom be a performance improvement with
you doing all things necessary to our heads, or should we stick to normal
next biggest size to clean up the bore?PROPOGATE! AND FACILITATE!
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Originally posted by jawbraeka View PostThis is Insane... And quite an interesting read. Please let us know when a rebuild kit is available... Pistons, rods, valves and springs, head, intake and exhaust headers... or even if you actually will build a complete motor with the specs your talking about custom..... Watch yourself guys.. I can't help but drool over this.
I was just curious to know if you had plans for mixing supercharger and turbo combinations into the equation?
Makes me feel like im going to drown in my own spittle.PROPOGATE! AND FACILITATE!
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Originally posted by FestYboy View Postok, i stand corrected about the bore size, my appologies. so, with a +.080" bore, what wall thickness do you wind up with and do you see any corrilation to SBF/SBC minimum thicknesses? or can you go thinner due to the reduced side loads from the smaller (lower mass) piston?
as for the stroker end of things (you can see i'm kinda stuck on this idea for some reason), asside from the cost standpoint (knowing that the last time i saw a stroker crank for the B3/6 block went for $2400 each) what other detraments do you see from attemting such a mod? as i understand it, the longer stroke will produce a stonger intake pulse and allow the power produced to act upon the crank over a longer procutive period. and at the relativly low rpm limits of our ECUs, i can only see gains here.
thoughts? (please be patient with me, i'm good with theory but love to see the results of real world application, i'm really just wanting to learn)
oh and if you like, i have a spare G1 B6 head that i can send along with the cams for "other" developements (seeing that many members here also have B6 swaps and that they are so similar to the B3 as well. Note: this is NOT an attempt to move things in the B6 direction, but more a possible hybrid?)PROPOGATE! AND FACILITATE!
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The wall thickness is .241"? So wouldn't .040 over be .221"?Brian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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"The wall thickness is .241"? So wouldn't .040 over be .221"?"
Depends on how you measure. Are we talking radius or diameter? I have no clue; I've read this phrase before many times but I'd never thought of this.
Karl'93GL "Prettystiva" ticking B3 and 5 speed, backup DD; full swaps in spring!
'91L "AquaMutt" my '91L; B6 swap/5 speed & Aspire brakes, DD/work car
'92L "Twinstiva" 5sp, salvage titled, waiting for repairs...
'93GL "Luxstiva," '94 B6 engine & ATX; needs overhauled
'89L "Muttstiva," now a storage bin, future trailer project
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Originally posted by blkfordsedan View PostThe wall thickness is .241"? So wouldn't .040 over be .221"?Last edited by mattdickmeyer; 12-27-2012, 12:01 PM.PROPOGATE! AND FACILITATE!
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In 2013 I hope to have a few more performance products available for Festiva owners. One particular component I am sending out for durability evaluation ( ok, torture testing ) should be ready around February to release.Last edited by mattdickmeyer; 12-27-2012, 02:26 PM.PROPOGATE! AND FACILITATE!
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Originally posted by mattdickmeyer View PostMatt says yes you are correct. This is his wife posting for him as he works. He forgot to divide by 2 when he told me what to writeBrian
93L - 5SP, FMS springs, 323 alloys, 1st gen B6, ported head & intake, FMS cam, ported exhaust manifold w/2-1/4" head pipe.
04 Mustang GT, 5SP, CAI, TFS plenum, 70mm TB, catted X, Pypes 304SS cat-back, Hurst Billet+ shifter, SCT/Bama tuned....4.10's & cams coming soon
62 Galaxie 2D sedan project- 428, 3x2V, 4SP, 3.89TLOC
1 wife, 2 kids, 9 dogs, 4 cats......
Not enough time or money for any of them
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One of my FORMER engine suppliers has a minimum wall thickness of .080 and something
similar for decking heads. Engines from them that were at .090 had heating problems
in hot weather, long grades and high altitude.
Replacing those engines at my expense solved those problems. Other suppliers that are
more picky with their max limits and also more picky about which castings they will use
have been trouble free.
Based on the toughness of this block and these experiences I believe Matt is in very safe
territory. This is really cool stuff going on here, Thank you Matt for breaking new ground
here!!Reflex paint by Langeman...Lifted...Tow Rig
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